Paul Heyman on Ariel Helwani

After watching this, I think Heyman needs to get into MMA, which surprises me.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2010/08/16/the-mma-hour-live-with-paul-heyman-in-studio/

ECW!

LMAO! ECW, that is funny. Honestly, after watchin gthat, I thought he had very lucid thinking about what is what. It seems to me that he could bring some strong guidance to any promotion.

he is a good guy he interviews very well.

Paul Heyman is a great mind and voice for any promotion....but his inability to write a valid check will always prevent him from being high level.

Great interview although Paul definately told a few lies during it. He could be good on down the road for SF or Bellator as far as building up fighters. I loved the part where Wolf called in to bash Brock. Wolf you were dedicated to hang on the line for an hour to dog Brock.

I think that guy has spent too much time in pro wrestling. Any org that already has their ball rolling(SF Bellator) will not want this guy on board.

hater!

Look Cap. Every time the Little Mermaid started going towards pro-wrestling, it was Paul who dragged HIM, the MMA guy back to the topic of MMA. As far as his ability to write a valid check? Back in the early days of ECW, his entire house was full of wrestlers who had nowhere to live. That promotion worked hard and nobody had a lot of money. Whatever money Paul Heyman and ECW earned went right back into the promotion. Eventually, they got solvent, but by the time they did the wrestling war between WCW and the WWE was in full swing and they couldn't hang on to their own stars. That is just business sometimes.

Andrew is spot-on regarding the ECW/money issue.

Paul Heyman didn't even work for WWF and he was so good that he forced a complete reworking of WWF's image to the "Attitude Era". They that intimidated by what a tiny little eastern promotion was doing.

Heyman was that talented. He knows how to sell a product.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

Look Cap. Every time the Little Mermaid started going towards pro-wrestling, it was Paul who dragged HIM, the MMA guy back to the topic of MMA. As far as his ability to write a valid check? Back in the early days of ECW, his entire house was full of wrestlers who had nowhere to live. That promotion worked hard and nobody had a lot of money. Whatever money Paul Heyman and ECW earned went right back into the promotion. Eventually, they got solvent, but by the time they did the wrestling war between WCW and the WWE was in full swing and they couldn't hang on to their own stars. That is just business sometimes.

Of coarse he was bringing it back to MMA, he wants a job, and he knows that wrestling is done. Just like he made sure to note that their are 3 big players in the US MMA market(note that he left out WEC), those are the guys he want's to work for. But SF and Bellator have made themselves into legit org's without his help, they each continue to grow, do they now hire a guy whose hey day came with an industry that is now dieing? Plus the guy seemed pretty self important, and would be a major ego to bring on board. I just don't see either SF or Bellator bringing that guy in. Perhaps as an independent consultant(as he noted), but not as a key figure within the org.

But there are org's like KOTC, Shark, WOM, etc, that may be interested.

In that I agree to a point. But he has never been a traditionalist in wrestling. He even noted that when he got on board with ECW that they took some of their ideas from MMA. Sure he wants to work, but he isn't exactly going broke, I think in what he said about Carwin, was spot on and if you have someone like him working with "weak" personalities to help sell fights? It wouldn't be a bad thing.

Well I think wanting to get back in with a major entertainment business is an ego thing, more then it is a money thing(and alot of time the money thing is an ego thing as well).

And as far as how his good ideas go, and how they parlay to MMA, the guy was talking about taking a dude straight from prison,with some level of jj training, and having him fight dawg the bounty hunter(yet he was wary of a Tank Abbott headlining bout?).

Like i said, the guy spent too much time in pro wrestling.

Dude Herschel Walker and James Toney are fighting in MMA. It is entertainment, the dog-n-pony shows we have to deal with are strictly there to garner the attention of the uninitiated.

I just watched the interview and I dont think he was out of line by mentioning anything at all. Captain he said a guy called him and said they needed a stunt and thats when he said get the guy out of prison. It wasnt really serious. He could definitely help out an organization in my opion but he has said it over and over he just doesnt know how yet. He has been offered work so people in MMA most think he is at least worth taking a shot on. BTW I cant wait for the Brock book to come out.

I agree with you Tim. I just hope the book isn't some schlock work.

captain organic wrote:

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

Look Cap. Every time the Little Mermaid started going towards pro-wrestling, it was Paul who dragged HIM, the MMA guy back to the topic of MMA. As far as his ability to write a valid check? Back in the early days of ECW, his entire house was full of wrestlers who had nowhere to live. That promotion worked hard and nobody had a lot of money. Whatever money Paul Heyman and ECW earned went right back into the promotion. Eventually, they got solvent, but by the time they did the wrestling war between WCW and the WWE was in full swing and they couldn't hang on to their own stars. That is just business sometimes.

Of coarse he was bringing it back to MMA, he wants a job, and he knows that wrestling is done. Just like he made sure to note that their are 3 big players in the US MMA market(note that he left out WEC), those are the guys he want's to work for. But SF and Bellator have made themselves into legit org's without his help, they each continue to grow, do they now hire a guy whose hey day came with an industry that is now dieing? Plus the guy seemed pretty self important, and would be a major ego to bring on board. I just don't see either SF or Bellator bringing that guy in. Perhaps as an independent consultant(as he noted), but not as a key figure within the org.

But there are org's like KOTC, Shark, WOM, etc, that may be interested.

SF needs Paul imo because they have no idea how to promote, direct, or produce a show. If you gave Paul two months with CBS/Showtime and Strikeforce fighters they would have an awesome show. He would make 10 other guys popular alone just from a production stand point. It would be like ten guys coming out to the cage like Mayhem Miller, but in there own way. Average MMA fans and Pro Wrestling fans would eat it up. I agree with a Dog Chapman fight because that stuff brings in average viewers who would never have watched in the first place. I would hate to see Dog fight though. He is too old, but it would have been funny. Now I would love to see Lashley fight Dog and the other two skinny mullet guys at the same time.

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

captain organic wrote:

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

Look Cap. Every time the Little Mermaid started going towards pro-wrestling, it was Paul who dragged HIM, the MMA guy back to the topic of MMA. As far as his ability to write a valid check? Back in the early days of ECW, his entire house was full of wrestlers who had nowhere to live. That promotion worked hard and nobody had a lot of money. Whatever money Paul Heyman and ECW earned went right back into the promotion. Eventually, they got solvent, but by the time they did the wrestling war between WCW and the WWE was in full swing and they couldn't hang on to their own stars. That is just business sometimes.

Of coarse he was bringing it back to MMA, he wants a job, and he knows that wrestling is done. Just like he made sure to note that their are 3 big players in the US MMA market(note that he left out WEC), those are the guys he want's to work for. But SF and Bellator have made themselves into legit org's without his help, they each continue to grow, do they now hire a guy whose hey day came with an industry that is now dieing? Plus the guy seemed pretty self important, and would be a major ego to bring on board. I just don't see either SF or Bellator bringing that guy in. Perhaps as an independent consultant(as he noted), but not as a key figure within the org.

But there are org's like KOTC, Shark, WOM, etc, that may be interested.

SF needs Paul imo because they have no idea how to promote, direct, or produce a show. If you gave Paul two months with CBS/Showtime and Strikeforce fighters they would have an awesome show. He would make 10 other guys popular alone just from a production stand point. It would be like ten guys coming out to the cage like Mayhem Miller, but in there own way. Average MMA fans and Pro Wrestling fans would eat it up. I agree with a Dog Chapman fight because that stuff brings in average viewers who would never have watched in the first place. I would hate to see Dog fight though. He is too old, but it would have been funny. Now I would love to see Lashley fight Dog and the other two skinny mullet guys at the same time.

LOL

He is essentially the Ultimate Used Car Salesman. He could work face and procurement for a lot of different places.

timthebim wrote:

I just watched the interview and I dont think he was out of line by mentioning anything at all. Captain he said a guy called him and said they needed a stunt and thats when he said get the guy out of prison. It wasnt really serious. He could definitely help out an organization in my opion but he has said it over and over he just doesnt know how yet. He has been offered work so people in MMA most think he is at least worth taking a shot on. BTW I cant wait for the Brock book to come out.

but who was he offered work by? (and how long ago was it?)

I could see a smaller org giving him a shot. I don't see SF or Bellator looking to hire him.