Is Werdum the sport's top HW?

LA, you're going on record saying no armlocks or chokes can beat Brock Lesnar?

Only Kenflo LA, only Kenflo.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

LA, you're going on record saying no armlocks or chokes can beat Brock Lesnar?

Wolf what does it matter right now? His next fight is Carwin. Do you really want to go on record saying Carwin is going to beat him with BJJ?

I think it would be hard to choke brock out and arm bars hell no that aint happening! Leg subs though he is very much in danger of in my opion.

I will say that maybe 2-3 fighters in the world could maybe choke him out via guillotine, but I wouldn't count on it.

I don't think superior wrestling is what will beat Fedor. Especially if we are talking 5 rounders. I think a submission specialist is perfect. I think Fedor would work over all those big wrestlers...but then that is just a guess. I actually think JDS with his standup is a more dangerous fight for Fedor.

If Brock got Fedor down and was on top of him like Mir, that fight is pretty much over

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

If Brock got Fedor down and was on top of him like Mir, that fight is pretty much over

In your opinion. I don't see it that way, I think eventually he could scramble out. I don't think Brock could pound him out.

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

If Brock got Fedor down and was on top of him like Mir, that fight is pretty much over

In your opinion. I don't see it that way, I think eventually he could scramble out. I don't think Brock could pound him out.

I think after last night he could. If he tapped he can be KOed also.

timthebim wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

If Brock got Fedor down and was on top of him like Mir, that fight is pretty much over

In your opinion. I don't see it that way, I think eventually he could scramble out. I don't think Brock could pound him out.

I think after last night he could. If he tapped he can be KOed also.

what is the connection there? He can be tapped by a triangle choke armbar combo...so that means he can get pounded out? I just don't see the connection.

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

timthebim wrote:

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

If Brock got Fedor down and was on top of him like Mir, that fight is pretty much over

In your opinion. I don't see it that way, I think eventually he could scramble out. I don't think Brock could pound him out.

I think after last night he could. If he tapped he can be KOed also.

what is the connection there? He can be tapped by a triangle choke armbar combo...so that means he can get pounded out? I just don't see the connection.

Maybe it shows he's human. The intimidation factor is lessened.

I can't wait until Fedor fights again. If he wasn't so religious I would say he literally kills the next guy.

I don't know about the tapped/KO'd thing, but a small guy like Fedor with a monster like Brock on top of him, Brock could easily keep him down pin an arm like he did to Mir and take his time. He made Mir seem like a child.

Mir is not Fedor. I would love to see it now more then ever. I don't think any less of Fedor. I think he will be a monster in his next few fights. I hope by some miracle he gets his hands on Brock.

But what Brock could do to either guy is no different

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

But what Brock could do to either guy is no different

I don't think so. I think Mir is much much easier to break then Fedor.

My pick I guess is a gamble right now, but I think after Carwin beats Lesnar he will be the best. Dominant win after dominant win. He's my guy.

lol why can't armbars work on Fedor, and why can only three men on earth choke him out LA?

Andrew this is about a fictional Brock vs Werdum, keep up.

My bad buddy. Could Werdum choke out Brock? Yes, if he snuck up on him in the middle of night, smothered him with a chloroform soaked rag, then choked him I can see it. Other than that, I don't think so. Too much power, too much weight, too much knowledge. Let me clarify, before you jump my back. BJJ is not a great mystery anymore. There are so many BJJ experts sharing their skills and know-how, coupled with experts in sambo, wrestling, judo, etc. and add with all that video of how the move(s) work and what a fighters tendencies are, it makes it highly unlikely that Werdum in a fight could choke or even armbar Brock.

Sigh.

You left the #2 HW off of the list.