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MMAEYES Black Belt


Favorite Fighter(s): BJ PENN, FEDOR, NICK DIAZ Posts: 3782 Reputation: 43 Join date: 2009-08-13 Age: 30 Location: London,Ohio
 | Subject: Joe Rogan on judging reform Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:10 am | |
| "I think one really important thing we need is monitors...there are certain positions the judges are in where they can't see what's going on. It happens all the time with us too, where a camera man will be in front of me or a referee will be in front of me, and I can't see what's happening, so I have to look at the monitors, and if I didn't have those monitors and I had to judge the fight just based on what I saw, you know, there's going to be some stuff I miss.
When I brought that up to Keith Kizer, he said 'well thats why there's 3 judges,' which I thought was one of the most retarded answers I've ever heard in my life. That's why there's 3 judges, so one guy can f*** it up and the other 2 can get it right? That doesn't even make any sense. Like, how about giving them some monitors. Why not just give them monitors? Give them monitors like we have monitors.
We have a huge problem with the boxing people...people with no martial arts experience or people with no grappling experience. There are some people who have never been kicked in the legs going around saying stupid things like "leg kicks don't win fights," you know, or "leg kicks don't stop fights" and these guys are actually judges for MMA events, and that's a ridiculous statement, and this is coming from someone who is a professional judge who has judged some huge events, gigantic championship fights.
There are a lot of really intelligent people who are mixed martial arts fans who would love those jobs and would do a much better job at it. We have these people who are grandfathered in...they've been involved in boxing, others have been involved with Karate...it's difficult to get rid of them...They're like government jobs. You have to really screw up or be involved with a scandal [to get fired]." - UFC Ringside Commentator, Joe Rogan, speaking with Josh Gross about judging incompetence in MMA. |
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MMAEYES Black Belt


Favorite Fighter(s): BJ PENN, FEDOR, NICK DIAZ Posts: 3782 Reputation: 43 Join date: 2009-08-13 Age: 30 Location: London,Ohio
 | Subject: Re: Joe Rogan on judging reform Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:12 am | |
| Wow I always just assumed that the judges had monitors too. No wonder decisions get fucked. We need judging reform for sure |
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Favorite Fighter(s): Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts: 32025 Reputation: 229 Join date: 2009-07-15 Age: 26 Location: Lawton, Oklahoma
 | Subject: Re: Joe Rogan on judging reform Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:15 am | |
| Rogan and Bas should be allowed to score the fights, just write Cecil Peoples at the top and throw his real card away. _________________  |
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ohiovol62 Purple Belt


Favorite Fighter(s): Sakuraba, Fedor, GSP, and Big Nog Posts: 1082 Reputation: 25 Join date: 2009-09-11 Age: 27 Location: Dayton Ohio
 | Subject: Re: Joe Rogan on judging reform Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:20 am | |
| I don't care if they didn't have monitors or not, the guy that scored the BJ vs Frankie fight 50-45 should be murdered |
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MMAEYES Black Belt


Favorite Fighter(s): BJ PENN, FEDOR, NICK DIAZ Posts: 3782 Reputation: 43 Join date: 2009-08-13 Age: 30 Location: London,Ohio
 | Subject: Re: Joe Rogan on judging reform Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:35 am | |
| | ohiovol62 wrote: | | I don't care if they didn't have monitors or not, the guy that scored the BJ vs Frankie fight 50-45 should be murdered |
LMFAO you know it! |
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Farmer1906 Bronze Belt


Favorite Fighter(s): Hughes, Griffin, Franklin, Liddell, Hendo, Sonnen, Wand, Lawler, & Belfort Posts: 6833 Reputation: 56 Join date: 2009-07-15 Location: Texas
 | Subject: Re: Joe Rogan on judging reform Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:49 am | |
| Someone tell Faber that leg kicks don't win fights _________________ Who's taking the LHW Title from Bones?
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 | Subject: Re: Joe Rogan on judging reform Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:56 am | |
| | Farmer1906 wrote: | | Someone tell Faber that leg kicks don't win fights |
Tell it to Renzo and Rampage(vs Forrest) too._________________  |
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Farmer1906 Bronze Belt


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timthebim Platinum Belt


Favorite Fighter(s): BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts: 15531 Reputation: 130 Join date: 2009-07-15 Age: 29 Location: Detroit
 | Subject: Re: Joe Rogan on judging reform Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:56 am | |
| I thought they had monitors as well and am kinda surprised they dont. |
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MMAEYES Black Belt


Favorite Fighter(s): BJ PENN, FEDOR, NICK DIAZ Posts: 3782 Reputation: 43 Join date: 2009-08-13 Age: 30 Location: London,Ohio
 | Subject: Re: Joe Rogan on judging reform Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:05 am | |
| | timthebim wrote: | | I thought they had monitors as well and am kinda surprised they dont. |
That's my thoughts exactly how can they NOT have monitors!? What about when the fight is on the ground against the fence on the other side of the judge? They can't possible tell what's going on can they? |
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timthebim Platinum Belt


Favorite Fighter(s): BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts: 15531 Reputation: 130 Join date: 2009-07-15 Age: 29 Location: Detroit
 | Subject: Re: Joe Rogan on judging reform Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:30 am | |
| | MMAEYES wrote: | | timthebim wrote: | | I thought they had monitors as well and am kinda surprised they dont. |
That's my thoughts exactly how can they NOT have monitors!? What about when the fight is on the ground against the fence on the other side of the judge? They can't possible tell what's going on can they? |
I agree 100 percent. There is just way to much they would have to miss by not having a monitor. |
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 | Subject: Re: Joe Rogan on judging reform Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:31 am | |
| Can they see the big screen from their seats? _________________  |
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timthebim Platinum Belt


Favorite Fighter(s): BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts: 15531 Reputation: 130 Join date: 2009-07-15 Age: 29 Location: Detroit
 | Subject: Re: Joe Rogan on judging reform Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:34 am | |
| Probably but I think they are so close to the cage they would probably have to break there necks to look up there to see anything. |
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MMAEYES Black Belt


Favorite Fighter(s): BJ PENN, FEDOR, NICK DIAZ Posts: 3782 Reputation: 43 Join date: 2009-08-13 Age: 30 Location: London,Ohio
 | Subject: Re: Joe Rogan on judging reform Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:35 am | |
| | OUSOONERSOU wrote: | | Can they see the big screen from their seats? |
I don't think so or else why not just make Rogan and Goldie look at the big screen too |
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MMAEYES Black Belt


Favorite Fighter(s): BJ PENN, FEDOR, NICK DIAZ Posts: 3782 Reputation: 43 Join date: 2009-08-13 Age: 30 Location: London,Ohio
 | Subject: Re: Joe Rogan on judging reform Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:36 am | |
| I'm sure the big screen is in deferent places depending on the venue |
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