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PostSubject: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:34 am

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Why do people pay homage to those who commit suicide?
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:31 am

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Why do people pay homage to those who commit suicide?

Why are some people insensitive pricks ?
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:35 am

Ali wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Why do people pay homage to those who commit suicide?

Why are some people insensitive pricks ?

I'm not going to feel sorry for a guy that killed himself.
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:40 am

freakzilla wrote:
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Why do people pay homage to those who commit suicide?

Why are some people insensitive pricks ?

I'm not going to feel sorry for a guy that killed himself.

Why even post in the thread if you have that view towards suicides ?

My cousin commited suicide a couple years ago I suppose you feel the same about him as well asshole.
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:40 am

Ali wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Ali wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Why do people pay homage to those who commit suicide?

Why are some people insensitive pricks ?

I'm not going to feel sorry for a guy that killed himself.

Why even post in the thread if you have that view towards suicides ?

My cousin commited suicide a couple years ago I suppose you feel the same about him as well asshole.

So I'm an asshole because I don't feel sorry for your cousin?
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:44 am

freakzilla wrote:
Ali wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Ali wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Why do people pay homage to those who commit suicide?

Why are some people insensitive pricks ?

I'm not going to feel sorry for a guy that killed himself.

Why even post in the thread if you have that view towards suicides ?

My cousin commited suicide a couple years ago I suppose you feel the same about him as well asshole.

So I'm an asshole because I don't feel sorry for your cousin?

You're an asshole for coming in this thread purely to antogonize.

Take your Islamic views and shove them up your arse.
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:46 am

Ali wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Ali wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Ali wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Why do people pay homage to those who commit suicide?

Why are some people insensitive pricks ?

I'm not going to feel sorry for a guy that killed himself.

Why even post in the thread if you have that view towards suicides ?

My cousin commited suicide a couple years ago I suppose you feel the same about him as well asshole.

So I'm an asshole because I don't feel sorry for your cousin?

You're an asshole for coming in this thread purely to antogonize.

Take your Islamic views and shove them up your arse.

Has nothing to do with Islam you racist prick. It's a cowardly act. Your cousin was a fucking coward and so was anyone that committed suicide.
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:53 am

freakzilla wrote:
Ali wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Ali wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Ali wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Why do people pay homage to those who commit suicide?

Why are some people insensitive pricks ?

I'm not going to feel sorry for a guy that killed himself.

Why even post in the thread if you have that view towards suicides ?

My cousin commited suicide a couple years ago I suppose you feel the same about him as well asshole.

So I'm an asshole because I don't feel sorry for your cousin?

You're an asshole for coming in this thread purely to antogonize.

Take your Islamic views and shove them up your arse.

Has nothing to do with Islam you racist prick. It's a cowardly act. Your cousin was a fucking coward and so was anyone that committed suicide.

you are the prick here buddy .. calm down before you hurt herself.

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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:57 am

freakzilla wrote:
Why do people pay homage to those who commit suicide?
Who are we to judge? I know I'm in no position to condemn anyone.

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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:03 pm

OU wrote:
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Why do people pay homage to those who commit suicide?
Who are we to judge? I know I'm in no position to condemn anyone.

I didn't say condemn them.
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:04 pm

GolbeZ wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Ali wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Ali wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Ali wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Why do people pay homage to those who commit suicide?

Why are some people insensitive pricks ?

I'm not going to feel sorry for a guy that killed himself.

Why even post in the thread if you have that view towards suicides ?

My cousin commited suicide a couple years ago I suppose you feel the same about him as well asshole.

So I'm an asshole because I don't feel sorry for your cousin?

You're an asshole for coming in this thread purely to antogonize.

Take your Islamic views and shove them up your arse.

Has nothing to do with Islam you racist prick. It's a cowardly act. Your cousin was a fucking coward and so was anyone that committed suicide.

you are the prick here buddy .. calm down before you hurt herself.

Thanks for the input jackass.
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:05 pm

freakzilla wrote:
GolbeZ wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Ali wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Ali wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Ali wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Why do people pay homage to those who commit suicide?

Why are some people insensitive pricks ?

I'm not going to feel sorry for a guy that killed himself.

Why even post in the thread if you have that view towards suicides ?

My cousin commited suicide a couple years ago I suppose you feel the same about him as well asshole.

So I'm an asshole because I don't feel sorry for your cousin?

You're an asshole for coming in this thread purely to antogonize.

Take your Islamic views and shove them up your arse.

Has nothing to do with Islam you racist prick. It's a cowardly act. Your cousin was a fucking coward and so was anyone that committed suicide.

you are the prick here buddy .. calm down before you hurt herself.

Thanks for the input jackass.

you are welcome .. i got more if you want.

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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:07 pm

freakzilla wrote:
Why do people pay homage to those who commit suicide?

Homage is paid to the life lived by those who have presented us with something we chose to value, like perhaps a film you once enjoyed.

"I don't feel sorry for him.... I don't feel sorry for your cousin.... I think your dead cousin is a coward...."

If you don't care don't antagonize the intent of the thread and stop trying to make this about you again.

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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:10 pm

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Why do people pay homage to those who commit suicide?

Homage is paid to the life lived by those who have presented us with something we chose to value, like perhaps a film you once enjoyed.

"I don't feel sorry for him.... I don't feel sorry for your cousin.... I think your dead cousin is a coward...."

If you don't care don't antagonize the intent of the thread and stop trying to make this about you again.

I said 1 comment and he made it personal.
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:12 pm

OU wrote:
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Why do people pay homage to those who commit suicide?
Who are we to judge? I know I'm in no position to condemn anyone.
Well you are casting judgement on a man you didn't know. You are also attempting to tell others how to feel about someone's death. You can't tell people how to feel about death, it's not your place.

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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:15 pm

If Ali had just messaged me that he had a cousin that committed suicide I would've apologized to him and I would've dropped it. Yet he had to make it personal.
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:19 pm

freakzilla wrote:
GDPofDRC wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Why do people pay homage to those who commit suicide?

Homage is paid to the life lived by those who have presented us with something we chose to value, like perhaps a film you once enjoyed.

"I don't feel sorry for him.... I don't feel sorry for your cousin.... I think your dead cousin is a coward...."

If you don't care don't antagonize the intent of the thread and stop trying to make this about you again.

I said 1 comment and he made it personal.

seems like your 1 comment was personal to him .. but the first comment never counts right? he said prick! what an ass..

and calling you insensitive is accurate

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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:23 pm

GolbeZ wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
GDPofDRC wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Why do people pay homage to those who commit suicide?

Homage is paid to the life lived by those who have presented us with something we chose to value, like perhaps a film you once enjoyed.

"I don't feel sorry for him.... I don't feel sorry for your cousin.... I think your dead cousin is a coward...."

If you don't care don't antagonize the intent of the thread and stop trying to make this about you again.

I said 1 comment and he made it personal.

seems like your 1 comment was personal to him .. but the first comment never counts right? he said prick! what an ass..

and calling you insensitive is accurate

I'm not going to bother arguing. All I'll say is I'm allowed to my opinion also and I had no idea about his cousin. He made it personal about my religion but no one has said anything about that either but no surprise there Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:30 pm

Wow. This thread should be deleted.

I come to the OT to read about cool/funny stuff. Not this garbage.

Side note Ali you did nothing wrong here. Could have been a good thread. Top Gun is a good movie.
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PostSubject: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:33 pm

yeah you are entitled to your own opinion but you have to know when to keep it to yourself because if you don't you are just an asshole .. period. This wasn't a discussion.. it should have been a different time and place to express that

and when i read (no edits .. back to back posts prior to the religious comment)

Ali wrote:
Why even post in the thread if you have that view towards suicides ?

My cousin commited suicide a couple years ago I suppose you feel the same about him as well asshole.
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So I'm an asshole because I don't feel sorry for your cousin?

i don't care what he says after .. any negative comment towards you could have been prevented by YOU if you stayed out of it

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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:38 pm

so freak whats your stance on islamists suicide bombers?


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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:39 pm

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If Ali had just messaged me that he had a cousin that committed suicide I would've apologized to him and I would've dropped it. Yet he had to make it personal.

I apologize for flying off the handle, I was close to my cousin so to hear you say that just set me off. Bringing up Islam was a bitch move on my part, I brought it up because I know how strongly that religion treats that subject and looks upon the people who commit it.

All I ask is try to be a little bit more sensitive when it comes to these sort of issues.

And I wasn't paying homage to people who commit suicide I was honoring the movie director.
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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:42 pm

problem is Islam tells you that if you kill innocent civilians you go to hell.
Then came Sayyid Qutb, Abdullah Azzam, Osama Bin Laden and several others who hijacked the religion (with the majority not being religious scholars) and interpreting their own views of islam allowing suicide and murdering innocent civilians.

I just was curious since suicide and religion are being brought up in the same discussion and, no offense is meant by this, but since Sayyid Qutbs writings, the islamic religion seems to have two views on the subject.

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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:17 pm

That is a rough diagnosis all together. Inoperable Brain Caner. It's a death sentence for most and not a pretty ending at all. He was 68, I've talked with friends about how it will be to be old and physically falling apart from cancer to dementia, the tole that kind of suffering has on a person mentally. I'll judge Tony Scott. I don't fault him much for his difficult decision. Living and dying is a hell of a thing. Taking your own life in that situation is extreme, but it is his life, he chose how he would end it, not some cancer that would ruin him. He gave mercy to himself.

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PostSubject: Re: Suicide   Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:00 pm

I feel sorry for somebody so broken that they find no more reason to live. I've been in some pretty bad states of depression in my life where i just want my brain turned off and waking up is the most brutal thing. Never felt suicide was an option but i can only imagine whats going on with people who fall so far into depression that they would end it. That's a scary place.

The only real condemnation i have of the act is how it effects those close to that person when it can be prevented..but i don't know the pain and suffering of somebody willing to kill themselves, so i don' judge or spit on somebody who commits suicide..and if i cared about them when they were alive, i'll mourn them when they are gone. Unless it's like a murder/suicide situation.

As for Tony Scott..i loved his movies. He was on his way out and he chose how he wanted to go. From the looks of it, he decided he didnt want to suffer. That does not make him less of a person to me...and somebody slowly dying of terminal cancer or whatever he had, is just as if not more taxing on loved ones as losing somebody unexpectedly.

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