How good is Cole Konrad? Would Cole Konrad ever contend for a UFC title?

In my opinion HELL NO. Anyone who thinks he would is crazy on multiple levels.

He is a good fighter with an oppressive top game, but against the takedown defense and punching power of the UFC he'd find himself in a lot of trouble long before he ever won enough to get a shot. I consider him about as good as Mike Russow and Jon Madsen. His wrestling style is not athletic and doesn't transfer over as well. And even if he were able to string together wins, unless he reinvented his style and started crushing people, the UFC would wait as long as they could and give him unfavorable match ups until he went away.

Both the UFC and Strikeforce at the time were actively looking for up and coming HW talent to get the upper hand on each other, and both passed on him for a reason.

Santos was the only guy with a valid shot at beating him. He should squish Prindle.

I bet he'd lose to Big Timmeh.

I say middle of the pack.

Ninja?

Cole Conrad is a developing fighter who has worlds of potential.

It is known knowledge that when Brock was in DeathClutch, Cole fucked him up everywhere. Boxing, Jujitsu, wrestling, you name. Now are you tell me that Cole could never contend for a title even though it's a fact that he gets the better of Brock in training who is a former champion? Are telling me that Cole can't get a title shot in the weakest division in MMA by far where Mark Hunt is potential title contender? Just plain ignorance and stupidity...and your Tim comment proves it Wolf.

I know winning a national championship in wrestling doesn't have a factor on what your ceiling in MMA will be, but its pretty evident that if you won a national championship your ceiling of MMA is alot higher than most. Cole won two national championship in years where the HW competition was maybe the toughest it has ever been.

Brock Lesnar was never close to actually the best fighter in the UFC, much less MMA. Strikeforce has merged with the UFC so the talent pool is even deeper. This common knowledge you're talking about needs sourced. The UFC does not readily grant title shots to fat and boring LnP'rs. This dude is no better than Mike Russow or Jon Madsen. I imagine he would lose to one or both of them. The guy has no natural explosiveness, and his wrestling style is not seen as all that great for MMA.

Stylistically, he probably loses to the first guy who blocks his shot, which is not particularly fast or powerful. This dude gets laid the fuck out by Brendan Schaub.

Even if he did win some of these fights against the mid tear UFC guys with good hips like Schaub or Kongo, unless he becomes a different fighter, these would not be exciting finishes. So from a business standpoint, this guy would have to win about 9 UFC fights before he got a title shot. Look how the UFC handled Fitch. Look how they handled Madsen.

This guy sucks ninja. He would lose to over half the current HW's in the UFC at least.

Konrad comes with an elite pre-mma resume. He's been dominant in his early career. He has shown an expanding game as he should as he's still very new to the sport. Who knows how much he has improved since we last saw him fight 9 months ago.

Yes he's a disgusting fat body, and at times has been boring as heck, but how can u deny that he is a good fighter? I see no reason to believe he could not contend for the UFC title.

The first guy with athletic hips and a right hand he fight knocks him out. Sorry. He sucks.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

The first guy with athletic hips and a right hand he fight knocks him out. Sorry. He sucks.

I have been much lower on Konrad then most. But you aren't giving him enough credit. He would dominate your boy HD.

He would beat HD yea. I would boycot that fight. He would be destroyed by Kongo though.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

He would beat HD yea. I would boycot that fight. He would be destroyed by Kongo though.

Konrad hasn't been put to sleep yet. Kongo has been wrestlefucked by guys with far inferior wrestling to Konrad. I'd pick Konrad in that matchup for sure. At this point in both guys career, I'd probably take Konrad over Nelson. But that be a tougher call.

I'd take him over Nelson too, because Nelson has been a sack of shit.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

I'd take him over Nelson too, because Nelson has been a sack of shit.

Nelson is 100x the fighter HD will ever be.

TL:DR

Wolfgangsta wrote:

TL:DR

No wonder your play-by-play generated opinions are so useless. You're not even reading anything other than the result at the end.

That doesn't even make sense. You're terrible at this. Piss off you little ankle biter.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

I'd take him over Nelson too, because Nelson has been a sack of shit.

OU wrote:

Nelson is 100x the fighter HD will ever be.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

TL:DR

Ludo wrote:

No wonder your play-by-play generated opinions are so useless. You're not even reading anything other than the result at the end.

Stating a post containing seven words, a two letter acronym, and a number is too long leads Me to believe you're not bothering to read the play by plays you base your opinions on. I'm glad we could have this little talk, but it's time for you to go wait in the car.

I suspected you had aspergers, now it is confirmed. That is the only way possible you'd think I was serious there. I was literally going to ask you that, seriously, last night. But I left it out of the post because you'd assume I was being mean.

Why would I assume you're being mean if I don't take you cereal?

Point taken, but it is true no? I normally don't mind aspies once they're comfortable with themselves and get over the stage you're currently in. Do you go to wrongplanet.net etc?

And for the record, no I don't think you are "retarded". Aspergers may be a socially crippling disability, and prevent you from understanding sarcasm, and certainly has prevented you from losing that V card. But it has advantages. Explains why you're able to for the sake of some internet argument able to rather easily crunch some numbers on finishing % ect that average people would find a waste of time. Little professor syndrome. I like you a lot more now Ludo. It took me a while to sniff you out. When you're not getting emotionally invested in pissing wars you hide it well.

I'm not sure what that website is, and I would ask you but I've got a sneaking suspicion it's not important. A good question to ask might be "why do you know about websites possibly linked to aspergers?" But again it's not important. I don't have aspergers but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

And for the record, no I don't think you are "retarded". Aspergers may be a socially crippling disability, and prevent you from understanding sarcasm, and certainly has prevented you from losing that V card. But it has advantages. Explains why you're able to for the sake of some internet argument able to rather easily crunch some numbers on finishing % ect that average people would find a waste of time. Little professor syndrome. I like you a lot more now Ludo. It took me a while to sniff you out. When you're not getting emotionally invested in pissing wars you hide it well.

I do enjoy some good number crunching. Then again so do pretty much all sports fans. Stats are like some of gods tears to a baseball fan(which admittedly I am not). I wonder if it's better playing little professor or little psychologist, though. You took a modicum of pride in being our own little Sigmund Freud meets Groucho Marx once upon a time.

yea...I donno man, you're pretty much made. It all makes sense now. Before I started to see you as a fat basement dwelling butthurt kid trying overcompensate for something by comin' after wolf obsessively, I felt you were a smart but idiosyncratic character. Then I found out you were a socially awkward dweebish sort of guy, which made sense with the whole overcompensating internet metal dork image of you. But now it has all come together. It makes it harder to hold a negative opinion of you honestly. For instance, your constant nitpicking on hyberbole, sarcasm and everything I was attributing to a deplorable personality mixed with overcompensation, but now that I see why you do that so much. I still think you have some personal negativity you are projecting but now I understand why a little better.

I listen to extreme metal and use the internet, so I've encountered likely dozens of aspies. Metal attracts them for whatever reason. Anus.com is proof of that. I like them once they come to terms with it. Then they usually treat everything like a joke, since they can't always tell. But are quite useful and have a different sort of perspective on things.

And look, if you really have never been officially diagnosed, which may or may not be the case, I know this aint the first time you've been called or questioned by someone in your life is it? Even faculty maybe?

I rest My case.

Yo reverend brethren, I'm gonna create the ultimate ranking match up hypothetical heavyweight strategic tactical implement later tonight

edit - postponed indefinitely.