Former UFC heavyweight champion Josh Barnett and company president Dana White together again (Pic)

http://www.mmamania.com/2011/5/9/2162997/former-ufc-heavyweight-champion-josh-barnett-and-company-president



"The Baby-faced Assassin" remarks that "pigs have now flown" and that we should "look for hell to freeze over next." White has said numerous times that Barnett would never again compete inside the Octagon for flunking several tests for banned substances throughout his career and not showing any remorse. Water under the bridge, boys?

Saw this yesterday. Didn't feel it was thread worthy.

tis but a picture

A picture says a thousand words ;-)

Wow. This is new. More worthy than months old team quest drama ou you okie bastard

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Wow. This is new. More worthy than months old team quest drama ou you okie bastard

New to you. Noob.

Barnett is too talented to be black balled, hope they work their shit out.

LA wrote:

Barnett is too talented to be black balled, hope they work their shit out.

if by talented you mean juiced then yeah. if anything they should just scrap the tourny after the next sf event and book him against shcuab or loser of nelson/mir for his next bout. many interesting fights for him once this crossover is complete

They should just scrap the tournament? Why would anyone in their right mind want to see that go away?

GDPofDRC wrote:

They should just scrap the tournament? Why would anyone in their right mind want to see that go away?

while it will have fun match ups there is really no point to most of them. now that zuffa owns them they should be working on seeing wich fighters are either close to being done or done with their contract and ship them over to the ufc. there will be alot more interesting match up for guys like overeem,werdum or big foot against the top guys there. although i dont think highly of rogers,barnett or sergei (at least now days) they can add depth to other hws on their level in the ufc.

You want there to be no Gran Prix because zuffa bought SF? That tourney is still better then anything happening right now in UFCs HW division and the best since HW attraction in over 6 years. Them scrapping the GP after the next event would be the biggest deuce zuffa could drop on mma fans ever.

This is definetly thread worthy.

Glad to see they seemingly buried the hatchet...now on to Frank Shamrock and Pat Militich so they can get their rightful spots in the HoF.

GDPofDRC wrote:

You want there to be no Gran Prix because zuffa bought SF? That tourney is still better then anything happening right now in UFCs HW division and the best since HW attraction in over 6 years. Them scrapping the GP after the next event would be the biggest deuce zuffa could drop on mma fans ever.

Really? Better than the ufc hw divisions schedule? Best hw attraction? One of the reasons the tourny was made was to actually give the fighters a fight and dates for them. Before that due to the lack of depth in the division one fight was handed out like nothing thus giving title shots to guys like rogers who wer coming off dominating losses. The ufc doesnt need a tourny for the fighters are booked with plenty of time. Heck mir/nelson could be a tourny slot. Jds/lesnar another. Carwin/ olev and u can have an alternate like the winner of browne/struve or kong/barry. U also have legend bouts like nog/crocop and side bouts like beltran/herman and shaub/rothwell. And thats cus those are only some of the bouts set for the next 3 months not including the champs return. How many hw bouts does sf have set? Had zuffa not taken over would they have had to delay the tourny again? Will they again? I give sf plenty of props. They have top hws in guys like overeem,werdum and bigfoot as well as mid teir guys like rogers,sergei plus the faded guys like aa and prospects in sdr and cromier(who might not fight for a long time) however the depth of the company and division is whats gonna not help them and for that its silly to say this tourny is better than anything the ufc has to offer in their hw division. I've read some posts on tbis board and others that in the end the best fights wont be in the tourny, they will be once we get to see the best from both fight each other and the remaindin guys bringin in more depth to the ufcs hw division.

throwdownfight1 wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

You want there to be no Gran Prix because zuffa bought SF? That tourney is still better then anything happening right now in UFCs HW division and the best since HW attraction in over 6 years. Them scrapping the GP after the next event would be the biggest deuce zuffa could drop on mma fans ever.

Really? Better than the ufc hw divisions schedule? Best hw attraction? One of the reasons the tourny was made was to actually give the fighters a fight and dates for them. Before that due to the lack of depth in the division one fight was handed out like nothing thus giving title shots to guys like rogers who wer coming off dominating losses. The ufc doesnt need a tourny for the fighters are booked with plenty of time. Heck mir/nelson could be a tourny slot. Jds/lesnar another. Carwin/ olev and u can have an alternate like the winner of browne/struve or kong/barry. U also have legend bouts like nog/crocop and side bouts like beltran/herman and shaub/rothwell. And thats cus those are only some of the bouts set for the next 3 months not including the champs return. How many hw bouts does sf have set? Had zuffa not taken over would they have had to delay the tourny again? Will they again? I give sf plenty of props. They have top hws in guys like overeem,werdum and bigfoot as well as mid teir guys like rogers,sergei plus the faded guys like aa and prospects in sdr and cromier(who might not fight for a long time) however the depth of the company and division is whats gonna not help them and for that its silly to say this tourny is better than anything the ufc has to offer in their hw division. I've read some posts on tbis board and others that in the end the best fights wont be in the tourny, they will be once we get to see the best from both fight each other and the remaindin guys bringin in more depth to the ufcs hw division.

The best you talk of isn't the present. It's not whats happening now. When then becomes now, and UFC Champ Cain Velasquez fight the Lineal Champ Alister Overeem, we can all comment on it. Until then I can only do that for what's happening now. At this point, if the prospect of what is supposed to soon go down in GP makes you wish it would just not happen all together, for something which for business reasons is not happening in the near future, then have fun with that.

KingsOwn19 wrote:

This is definetly thread worthy.

Glad to see they seemingly buried the hatchet...now on to Frank Shamrock and Pat Militich so they can get their rightful spots in the HoF.

I didn't know Pat and Dana had trouble. What happened?

Well the way Pat puts it is that DW made several promises to him and not one of them ever happened. I believe Pat sees it through the eyes of pure honesty and Dana sees it through the eyes of pure business. They are both right and wrong. But I do believe if that hatchet is going to be buried, the olive branch will have to come from Dana, because Pat is a very stubborn man.

GDPofDRC wrote:

throwdownfight1 wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

You want there to be no Gran Prix because zuffa bought SF? That tourney is still better then anything happening right now in UFCs HW division and the best since HW attraction in over 6 years. Them scrapping the GP after the next event would be the biggest deuce zuffa could drop on mma fans ever.

Really? Better than the ufc hw divisions schedule? Best hw attraction? One of the reasons the tourny was made was to actually give the fighters a fight and dates for them. Before that due to the lack of depth in the division one fight was handed out like nothing thus giving title shots to guys like rogers who wer coming off dominating losses. The ufc doesnt need a tourny for the fighters are booked with plenty of time. Heck mir/nelson could be a tourny slot. Jds/lesnar another. Carwin/ olev and u can have an alternate like the winner of browne/struve or kong/barry. U also have legend bouts like nog/crocop and side bouts like beltran/herman and shaub/rothwell. And thats cus those are only some of the bouts set for the next 3 months not including the champs return. How many hw bouts does sf have set? Had zuffa not taken over would they have had to delay the tourny again? Will they again? I give sf plenty of props. They have top hws in guys like overeem,werdum and bigfoot as well as mid teir guys like rogers,sergei plus the faded guys like aa and prospects in sdr and cromier(who might not fight for a long time) however the depth of the company and division is whats gonna not help them and for that its silly to say this tourny is better than anything the ufc has to offer in their hw division. I've read some posts on tbis board and others that in the end the best fights wont be in the tourny, they will be once we get to see the best from both fight each other and the remaindin guys bringin in more depth to the ufcs hw division.

The best you talk of isn't the present. It's not whats happening now. When then becomes now, and UFC Champ Cain Velasquez fight the Lineal Champ Alister Overeem, we can all comment on it. Until then I can only do that for what's happening now. At this point, if the prospect of what is supposed to soon go down in GP makes you wish it would just
not happen all together, for something which for business reasons is not happening in the near future, then have fun with
that.

Well then present u what ur looking at then fine, presently since the year started the ufc has and will produce better hw fights than the sf hw roster will have to offer and thats thanks to the depth of their talent pool. If u wanna stick around to watch the sf gp knowing the true #1 and 2 hws will be in the ufc and even with injuries would most likely stay busier than the sf hws than thats fine. I was just interested in better match ups

Why are people assuming SF fighters can just jump right into the UFC? I think it's obvious it's not that simple or we would be seeing alot more of it. People were suggesting things like move Werdum vs Reem to UFC 130, like that is a realistic option. Now you don't want the SF HW GP to finish out because you want those guys to fight in the UFC? Why would you assume those are realistic options atleast in the short term? What indications have they given us that it is even possible? Both SF and UFC have expressed interest in "Super Fights". But there obviously has to be reasons why those fights are not popping up left and right. Until we see the flood gates open up, it is just wishful thinking.

OU wrote:

Why are people assuming SF fighters can just jump right into the UFC? I think it's obvious it's not that simple or we would be seeing alot more of it. People were suggesting things like move Werdum vs Reem to UFC 130, like that is a realistic option. Now you don't want the SF HW GP to finish out because you want those guys to fight in the UFC? Why would you assume those are realistic options atleast in the short term? What indications have they given us that it is even possible? Both SF and UFC have expressed interest in "Super Fights". But there obviously has to be reasons why those fights are not popping up left and right. Until we see the flood gates open up, it is just wishful thinking.

My main comment was simply sugesting that if barnetts or someone elses contract was to soon expire or be on a fight to fight base then they should mix it up in the ufc. Do also remember that not once did i mention fedor in any of my post for i dont ever see m-1 letting him fight in the ufc, im completely aware of fighter contracts preventing them. My sugestion was nothing more than a fans point of view wanting to see the ufc hws mix it up with the sf hws.

throwdownfight1 wrote:

OU wrote:

Why are people assuming SF fighters can just jump right into the UFC? I think it's obvious it's not that simple or we would be seeing alot more of it. People were suggesting things like move Werdum vs Reem to UFC 130, like that is a realistic option. Now you don't want the SF HW GP to finish out because you want those guys to fight in the UFC? Why would you assume those are realistic options atleast in the short term? What indications have they given us that it is even possible? Both SF and UFC have expressed interest in "Super Fights". But there obviously has to be reasons why those fights are not popping up left and right. Until we see the flood gates open up, it is just wishful thinking.

My main comment was simply sugesting that if barnetts or someone elses contract was to soon expire or be on a fight to fight base then they should mix it up in the ufc. Do also remember that not once did i mention fedor in any of my post for i dont ever see m-1 letting him fight in the ufc, im completely aware of fighter contracts preventing them. My sugestion was nothing more than a fans point of view wanting to see the ufc hws mix it up with the sf hws.

I think everyone is just drooling over the possible matchups and eagerly waiting for that day to come. I'm just not going to get all worked up over the possible matchups until they get the green light. Still fun to think about, but for now it's just a thought.

OU wrote:

Why are people assuming SF fighters can just jump right into the UFC? I think it's obvious it's not that simple or we would be seeing alot more of it. People were suggesting things like move Werdum vs Reem to UFC 130, like that is a realistic option. Now you don't want the SF HW GP to finish out because you want those guys to fight in the UFC? Why would you assume those are realistic options atleast in the short term? What indications have they given us that it is even possible? Both SF and UFC have expressed interest in "Super Fights". But there obviously has to be reasons why those fights are not popping up left and right. Until we see the flood gates open up, it is just wishful thinking.

Yeah there's been way too much hypothetical talk around here about stuff that isn't going to happen. Eventually we'll see this stuff but people talking about SF guys coming in as replacements because of injuries, SF fights being moved to UFC cards, etc...take it easy

GDPofDRC wrote:

You want there to be no Gran Prix because zuffa bought SF? That tourney is still better then anything happening right now in UFCs HW division and the best since HW attraction in over 6 years. Them scrapping the GP after the next event would be the biggest deuce zuffa could drop on mma fans ever.

While I agree the Grand Prix should be finished, let's be real...SF shit the bed on that one. Good idea in theory just like the Super 6 but it ran into some issues. Mainly the fact that they killed all momentum by putting the 2nd set of first round matchups 4 months after the first which was so idiotic on a couple levels. The layoff for Bigfoot and Sergei first of all, one of them is even taking a K-1 fight just to stay busy. And another, with as common as injuries are in MMA why would you even purposefully delay things? I realize they had plans about Japan and what not, but sometimes you just have to make the sensible decision and having a tournament fights in the same round are taking place that far apart isn't it. That along with Fedor's first round loss took a lot of the starch out of this thing. I'm sure the interest will go up again once its time for Reem to fight, but they mauled the shit out of that thing. It went from being "I think we'll finish this within the year" to us hoping we might see some damn 2nd round fights by the time September/October roll around.

Even if SF fighters could fight in the UFC today, I'd still want the tourney to continue. Tourney is dope.

Tourney winner vs UFC champ will be dope(fingers crossed).

In an interview Dana said he could do whatever he wants and get anybody to fight in whichever company he wants from both companies.

throwdownfight1 wrote:

LA wrote:

Barnett is too talented to be black balled, hope they work their shit out.

if by talented you mean juiced then yeah. if anything they should just scrap the tourny after the next sf event and book him against shcuab or loser of nelson/mir for his next bout. many interesting fights for him once this crossover is complete

Feels like it has already been scraped. Its taking forever just to get through the 1st round. Fights in Febuary and the rest of the 1st round in June?? Crazy. When will the second round be the end of 2012?? This thing is just dragging. Scrap it already and make the fights people want to see.