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| Subject: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:19 am | |
| Talk of Lil Nog as a top 10 fighter. |
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Mauricio Shogun Rua, BJ Penn, AXE MURDERER,Fedor, CroCop, Vitor Belfort, JDS Posts : 16162 Join date : 2010-02-28 Age : 38 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:20 am | |
| shees why da hate, he's faced tough enough competition IMO | |
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Mauricio Shogun Rua, BJ Penn, AXE MURDERER,Fedor, CroCop, Vitor Belfort, JDS Posts : 16162 Join date : 2010-02-28 Age : 38 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:20 am | |
| plus he's faced all wrestlers his last 3 fights | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 36 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:26 am | |
| dont you have Forrest Griffin in your top 10?
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:31 am | |
| Lil Nog vs Rich Franklin please ! |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:33 am | |
| Forrest was champ just a few years ago and has wins over Rua, Rampage and Franklin. His last loss to a fighter outside the top 10 was in 2006.
Lil Nog has lost to Bader, Davis and just beat Brilz. His last win over a top 10 fighter was 2005. |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 36 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:57 am | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- Forrest was champ just a few years ago and has wins over Rua, Rampage and Franklin. His last loss to a fighter outside the top 10 was in 2006.
Lil Nog has lost to Bader, Davis and just beat Brilz. His last win over a top 10 fighter was 2005. sorry brah brah if your gonna bash people for currently having Lil Nog in the top 10, dont have Forrest in your top 10 like how you quietly forget about the Cane fight.....ya Forrest beat a bum Rua go watch Rua vs Lil Nog if you want to see a classic fight how many fights has Forrest had the last 2 years? | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:01 am | |
| Forrest is way ahead of Lil Nog in the rankings and would beat Lil Nog. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:02 am | |
| Cane? where is he right now? |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 36 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:09 am | |
| a year ago Forrest was way behind Nog
Forrest is not top 10 if you think he is, man Gumps got ya fooled | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:21 am | |
| He's lost to Anderson Silva and Rashad which is acceptable. Lil Nog has lost to Bader and Davis which is not. |
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Ludo Bronze Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Prodigy, The Great, Viking Dahmer, The Phenom Posts : 6474 Join date : 2009-09-12
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:25 am | |
| Yeah Minotoro has had a REALLY tough schedule in the UFC. It's like they don't want him around so they are continually giving him the toughest possible style matchups. To say he never deserved a top ten ranking is ridiculous though. As far as I'm concerned he's just outside the top ten if not in it with the departure of Cavalcante. Whole lot of hate going on in here. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:39 am | |
| Joe Silva's matchmaking has really pissed me off lately. |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 104 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:40 am | |
| Wrestler surplus has ramifications. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:44 am | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- He's lost to Anderson Silva and Rashad which is acceptable. Lil Nog has lost to Bader and Davis which is not.
Why is losing to Bader or Davis not acceptable ? both are talented young wrestlers. |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 104 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:46 am | |
| Don't get the reason for the hate. The guy has been and is good. People run into better guys, doesn't make him bad. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:53 am | |
| - Ali wrote:
- freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- He's lost to Anderson Silva and Rashad which is acceptable. Lil Nog has lost to Bader and Davis which is not.
Why is losing to Bader or Davis not acceptable ? both are talented young wrestlers. Not if you want to be a solid top 10 fighter. |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:34 am | |
| Let's settle this the right way.
Nog vs Forrest.
But no way is Nog top 10 right now. I don't have Forrest in there either. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:39 am | |
| No LHW outside the UFC but Hendo deserves to be in the top 10, so if Forrest isn't in there who is?
But Lil Nog didn't get beat, he got outwrestled, and he may not be top 10 anymore, but the guy is still a top 15 LHW.
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:47 am | |
| - LA wrote:
- No LHW outside the UFC but Hendo deserves to be in the top 10, so if Forrest isn't in there who is?
But Lil Nog didn't get beat, he got outwrestled, and he may not be top 10 anymore, but the guy is still a top 15 LHW.
says u. and getting outwrestled is getting beat. I don't like it either. I hate top control decision wrestlers. but it is what it is. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 36 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:00 am | |
| - LA wrote:
- No LHW outside the UFC but Hendo deserves to be in the top 10, so if Forrest isn't in there who is?
But Lil Nog didn't get beat, he got outwrestled, and he may not be top 10 anymore, but the guy is still a top 15 LHW.
If you have Griffin over King Mo right know your a fanboy | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:06 am | |
| Yeah because Mo has beaten so many great fighters to warrant a top 10 ranking LOL
It literally makes no sense to put him in the top 10
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:22 am | |
| I personally felt he did more in the fight overall. .but what are ya gonna do? I can't say he won any round other than the first one..but damn, i was not impressed by Phil Davis. He looked highly one dimensional and Nog on a better day(more agressive with his strikes) would have/should have won this fight.
Why am i contantly dissapointed with the Nogueira's BJJ considering how "great" they are? I hate to sound like a TuF noob by saying that. I know Big Nog was great for his time being the only high level BJJ artist in his division before Werdum came along..and Lil Nog gets his status by being his twin brother...but come on. Phil Davis is just chillin there, not even really pressing Lil Nog and he's not doing anything or even threatening to try to submit him.
I mean, going back to the Brilz fight, he should be tapping guys like Brilz and he was even swept by Brilz a few times. I don't know.
It's just mind boggling to me. I think Lil Nog should have been able to win this fight and he was not agressive on his feet even though he had a clear advantage there, and he was no agressive off his back. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:27 am | |
| Good thoughts Kings, I agree with a lot.
Do a whole thread if you got time I'll add some later | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 34 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: Please no more (spoilers) Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:38 am | |
| Nog/Franklin please. He's going through a Guillard-like run of grapplers | |
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